“The obtaining of money is a lot easier than stewarding that money well.”

Sean Frank (CEO, Ridge), Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern), and Matt Bertulli (CEO, Pela Case & Lomi) dig into one of the most-requested topics from listeners: how do owner-operators pay themselves? And what should they be aiming for? The hosts walkthrough salary benchmarks, distribution strategies, and the honest math behind building long-term wealth in consumer.

The conversation goes deep on the tension between pulling money out now versus betting on the asset long-term, creating a business that outlasts you as CEO, and why chasing one big exit can be the very thing that ruins the deal. They also get personal by sharing what they’d tell their younger selves, the difference between financial security and financial freedom, and why the number you think you need is almost always wrong.

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Chapters
00:00:00 How Do CEOs Get Paid
00:06:22 The Equity Mindset Tax
00:12:08 CEO Replacement Value
00:15:48 Build to Last or to Sell?
00:18:48 Hiring a CEO From Inside
00:24:27 “Old Money” Problems
00:29:52 Security Versus Freedom
00:34:50 Define Your Own Success
00:38:43 Pay Off the House First
00:41:12 Mike Flexes His NBA Ring
00:49:02 How to Reorder Your Life
00:53:09 Letter to Younger Selves